-------------------------------------------------------------- Permission granted for anyone to distribute this writing, or parts thereof, free of charge (including translation into any language)...under condition no profit is made therefrom, and that excerpted portions remain intact and complete, including credit to the original author. -------------------------------------------------------------- STORY OF BOB copyright 1998 by Bill Long This is a story of the success of those who want to keep others (mainly the young) in total ignorance. The person I am speaking of, lets call him Bob, was about 40 years old when I met him. He was a small pixie-like person with a sweet personality, who was not disliked by anyone. He also was not very bright, but hid the fact very well to those who did not know him well. Scientific American magazine of December 1997 had an article about "William's Syndrome", which brought Bob to mind when I read it. From what I read in the article, Bob had this syndrome. He died a few years after I met him, of a progressively worsening heart murmur that could not be repaired at that time: early 1960s. One evening a group of people had gathered at my apartment for a glass of wine and conversation...Bob was among them. During the conversation (remember this was the 60s and social rules were beginning to loosen some what) someone speculated that a well-known man was screwing a well known-woman, and others joined the speculation both pro and con--not a very serious conversation, just passing time. Bob stopped the conversation dead with the statement: "People really don't do things like that in real life". We asked him what he meant by that. He said that he had never seen anyone do that; he had read books and they never said anything about anyone doing that. (Remember in a novel in those days, whenever anyone was going to do that, you had a series of "...... ........ .......", which to most people meant that they were going to do that; but they would never, never say that they had done that, or were going to do that ). He said he had never read that they had ever done that, so it was clear to him that people in real life never did that. Someone asked him where babies come from. He said that when a daddy rubs himself, a milk comes out of his thing...and when that happens, he puts it into the mommie, and a baby forms--and that was the only time that was done, to make babies. Who knows? Maybe that is the way his parents did it. They were taught by the same priest he was. A year or so later, when a "porno" movie became legal in the city, some one took Bob to see a film. His conclusion was that they were play-acting, and no one did that in real life. I guess he held that viewpoint till he died. Bob was raised in a strict Irish Catholic home. He was the perfect product of his upbringing. He was totally ignorant of "real life". If, 50 years ago, an alien from another planet landed, looked at our art, read our books, viewed our films, and listened to what children were taught; he might well get the idea that people in real life never did that in America. (I added "in America", because if the aliens were to visit the temples of south east Asia, they would see plainly on the walls that they did a lot of "that".) Those in the fundamentalist religions may well be more open now than they were then, but, they were dragged screaming and kicking all the way to where they are now. If they had their way, we would all be right back there with Bob in "perfect" ignorance. I think of Bob whenever I see someone upset about what the youth of today may be seeing or hearing. They are yearning after that "perfect" ignorance that they, their parents and their parents' parents tried to achieve in their children. Lies and hypocrisy must have been the perfection which they sought. ============================================================== -------------------------------------------------------------- Permission granted for anyone to distribute this writing, or parts thereof, free of charge (including translation into any language)...under condition no profit is made therefrom, and that excerpted portions remain intact and complete, including credit to the original author. -------------------------------------------------------------- MUSINGS ON "EUROPA EUROPA" copyright 1998 by Bill Long Some time ago I saw a film (in fact I have seen it several times) that left a big impression on me. At first I could not explain why I felt such empathy for the boy in the film. The story is about a Jewish boy who was born in Germany before Hitler's time. As he got into his teenage years, and the Nazis started taking over, his family fled to Warsaw. Then of course the Nazis invaded Poland. The family tried to get him and his older brother east toward Russia, but he and his brother got separated. He ended up that part of his journey in a Communist orphanage and youth training school. When the Nazis overran the area where he was, the German solders-- because he spoke German--assumed they had rescued a German youth from the hands of the Communists. The boy had great survival skills, as teenagers many times have, so he went along with whatever kept him alive. Because he spoke both German and Russian, the Germans found him useful as interpreter, so adopted him as sort of a mascot with their unit. One former actor, a gay soldier, did learn his secret of being a circumcised Jew, but loved the boy, protected him and kept his secret. During a battle with the Russians the actor/ soldier was killed, and when the boy tried to surrender to the Russians, they instead surrendered to him. This made him a big hero with the Germans, so the commanding general adopted him and sent him to school in Germany, where the sons of the high command were taught. (I won't tell you the ending of the story, in case you have not seen the film, but he has many adventures and misadventures before the end.) So here is this circumcised Jewish teenager among the most rabid of the Nazi Jew haters. He dare not ever let anyone see him without his clothing. He must endure the teaching of how less than human Jews are, and how they should be exterminated. Every minute of every day he risks exposure and death even among his best "friends". I know why I empathized with the boy so strongly. I was born in the mid 30's in the midwestern United States, near St Louis. I had the misfortune to be born gay to a Born- Again Fundamentalist Christian Family. They are to gay persons what the Nazis were to the Jews. I knew I was different from the age of 5 or 6. Ignorance was the basic teaching of the family toward sex. All talk, masturbation, and (god forbid) any activity with another person concerning sex, was summed up by two words: evil and nasty. I ran away from home several times, but was brought back and threatened with "reform school" if I did it again. There was not the great number of runaways and homeless to blend into in those days, so I could see that route did not work very well. I was sent to a "Dr." to find out why I was so unhappy. Like the Jewish boy I had learned to survive, which meant lying very well, telling those whom I felt dangerous to me, what they wanted to hear. I quit school when I was 16, and got a job as a solution to getting away from home. But I could see that I was not going very far with no education, and on a bank messenger's salary. I joined the U.S. Navy...The old saying of jumping from the frying pan into the fire...I did just that. (That is another story for another time ). So I was raised as a hated minority in a Nazi society. When the Conservatives (Nazis) talk about "family values", I for one know exactly what they are talking about. I know what so many thousands of the youths of the world are going through. I live in San Francisco now. I am old for my years. I helped fight many battles for freedom from the Nazis in my time, and it has taken its toll. The last battle I had to fight was when I needed a heart transplant. I was told that I did not have the "family support structure" necessary to be considered for a transplant. The day before they had told me that I would not live much beyond 3 weeks without the transplant. I got in touch with a friend with the ACLU. He announced that he was going to start an investigation into this discrimination. The doctors changed their tune and put me on the list; I still had to wait 18 months. I guess I became an embarrassment to them. because at this point I refused to die and give their "family values" a victory. I can get very stubborn sometimes. Things have changed a lot over the years, and for the better to a great extent. When I see all the gay web pages, all the information for gay youth (if they know where to look), the Gay Pride parades and the politicians in them (I was in the first one in Los Angeles and believe me when I say there were NO politicians there), I think the battles have been worth it. But we have a long way to go. I hope, by writing what I have here, that maybe, some gay youth will read it and consider it somewhat of a history of where our people have been and where we are going. Like the Jewish youth in Europa Europa, one has to be sharp and one jump ahead of the Nazis to survive. The Nazis in the world will always find someone to hate and right now you are in their targets as gay youths. They are great at changing their names, sometimes as conservatives, family values, Republicans, skinheads, Christians, Muslims, Catholics, or a host of other labels. But their main outlook in life is to have someone to oppress, change and hate. Watch for them and fight them with any means you have. Also see the movie Europa Europa: it will teach you how to stay one jump ahead of the Nazis. ============================================================== -------------------------------------------------------------- Permission granted for anyone to distribute this writing, or parts thereof, free of charge (including translation into any language)...under condition no profit is made therefrom, and that excerpted portions remain intact and complete, including credit to the original author. -------------------------------------------------------------- TECHNO-POLITICS copyright 1998 by Bill Long You were talking about forming a political type organization. Ok one way to go about it is to look at history...what worked..what did not work. Ghandi sat down and freed a nation. The lunch counter sit-ins of the blacks worked. Martin Luther's success came from a new technology...the printing press...his use of the printing press almost brought down the most powerful organization in Europe and it took a hundreds of wars to stabilize Europe again. The Crusades ended in failure..although They did have some workability in the beginning...worked when united, failed when became disorganized. Hitler's organization worked till he turned to violence outside his borders..then failed. Success was based on new technology...radio Martin Luther King march on Washington...great success... success based on organizing... Islam very successful...based on simple message and a complete code of conduct... Xianity... very successful..success based on having the only educated persons in the society as priest. Also a very simple message.... Communism...very successful when based on ideas accepted by a majority of people...the working classes...failed when perverted by power struggle. Democracy in U.S. very successful so far...success based on the end of inherited political power...may fail because inherited wealth was not also abolished...Political foundation is being bought by inherited wealth in families. Gay rights..very successful..so far...based on new technology...television. Right wing politics in the U.S....power waning...in some cases it appears to be gaining power..but it is just making a lot of noise trying to retain what it still has. Microsoft...very successful...new technology..computers and WWW (worldwide web)... (Push technology ....a group in Wash. D C summarizes what they think is important happening in the political news...a copy of this is on every congressman's desk, all major staff at the White House and every newspaper editor's desk in the U.S. several times a day.) W3...WWW...A few years ago in France the government came up with an Idea to help transit users. They put the timetables of all transit systems in the country on a web + news for commuters. As an afterthought they added capabilities for e-mail and opened it to the public. A few weeks later the government, which subsidized college students' transportation, decided to raise the student fares when schools began. This pissed the students off royally. Through the web the students organized a protest. When school opened almost every student in the county was not in class, but demonstrating in the streets...The government was caught completely off guard, quickly backed down, and will never be the same again.... Political organization = laws....does it want to get new laws or get rid of the ones that are there? Physical and political definition of power. A relative unmovable base. To generate electricity one anchors a device in which there is a magnetic source and mechanically move metal in the device through the field. Without the base holding the device, relatively little power will be generated. Political power must also have this relative unmovable base. To rob a person or group of their political power one must remove or sway their base (adherents)...or appear to anyway. Example... In Iran in the 1960's a democratic leader was elected for the first time in their history with a huge majority. He had a great base of power. The leader started talking about nationalizing the oil production. The western governments got upset..The C I A (well funded) hired a bunch of people to demonstrate against him "in a mass protest". They did so well that the people who did support him thought he had lost his power base, did nothing, and the Shah's forces arrested him and resumed power. They then arrested the leader's backers and made it deadly to support the leader. Now the Shah had an unshakable base..the army and police. The U.S. S R tried that many times in the U.S. but it never worked very well...they just could not shake the power base of the elected government. (It is amazing to me how quickly some governments fall when a bunch of demonstrator take to the streets...Their power bases must be very shaky to start with.) Gay rights are in the position that it need not pass many laws to gain their goals; but to get the ones that exist off the books. This is much more difficult. Laws seem to have a life of their own once passed. In California we have (and other states do also) the "initiative" system. A major agenda would be to use the technology of the WWW. With encryption of signatures possible, make the initiative possible by e-mail....so gays can sign a petition by e-mail to put something on the ballot. One must have a new agenda...or at least a newly worded one. Something simple that the allies and adherents can easily latch on to. One I would suggest is to attack the monogamist laws. I am sure they are unconstitutional in the U.S....they have never really been challenged in court. Approached from the viewpoint that any 2 or more people may be, for legal reasons, considered a family. In the past the argument against polygamy was that a man could not have the use and power over a group of women. Women are becoming more empowered and independent so they do not need that protection any more. Women can not be "owned" anymore like in the past. Change that around to the effect that a group of women do not need more than one husband for the group if they do not wish it. It would be interesting to find the wording to that so it would appeal to most women. Next I would push to have the laws of Holland regarding youths, enacted in the U.S.. The youths have proven very powerful in getting their own way when it comes to money...I bet they could be equally aroused when it comes to this issue on the net...What a great bunch of allies to have...Using the platform of natural family laws and choice for everyone, one has the gays, women, youth and most men allied...what a powerful coalition. ============================================================== SEX IS NORMAL copyright 1998 by Bill Long Most normal people have sex. Most normal people masturbate. Most normal men have same-sex urges. Most normal women have same-sex urges. Most teenagers have sex. Most normal teenage males have same-sex urges. Most normal teenage females have same-sex urges. Most children have sexual urges and experiment with sex before their teenage years (and enjoy it if they're not told it is nasty, dirty, evil, and they will burn in hell forever). Studies are showing that where the age of consent is 12 years old versus 16 to 18 years old, the teenage pregnancy rate is only 1/6 as much, and sexual activity starts on the average 2 years later. Why do the above statements seem perverted to so many people? The answer to that is that they live in a perverted society. As we as people become more aware of who we are and how our physical universe works, we become more aware of the perverted thinking people were brainwashed into believing from childhood. Gone are the days when the Great White father in Rome could tell one king "I give you one half of the world" and tells another king "I give you the other half". (This did not work because already the Age of Reason was coming about and The Great White Roman Father's power was begining to wane.) Gone are the days when the Great Prophet of the Arabian Desert could say "It is God's will that one man can own another man in slavery" and have millions of people listen to him. (Women are another story: a man still owns his wife under the laws of the great Prophet.) Gone are the days when the Great God Emperor of The East could tell the young men of an empire "Go forth and kill yourselves in a flaming death and we shall call you Glorious Kamikaze", and have thousands do his bidding. Gone are the days (I hope) when two Great White Leaders in the north have a clash of egos and cause 40+ million of their followers to be killed. Gone are the days when the black robed Fathers can set up torture chambers for those who may not accept their particular brand of perverted beliefs. Going are the days when the great perverters of the truth can tell people that normal activities are wrong, and have people believe them without question. Going are the days when parents can continue to lie to children and convince them that things that are normal in their lives are abnormal, without the children questioning what they can see is not true. Going are the days when parents and governments can tell teenagers they are "owned" by their parents, have no rights and are the same as the slaves of old...and accept this without question. Going are the days when people believe that only a monogamist family unit is the one that is "right" for everyone, and accept this as true. Going are the days when people believe that a heterocentric society is "right" for everyone, and not question this abnormal restriction on their lives. Why do these perversions of the truth still exist? My opinion is that it shows the basic goodness of people from birth. Children do not lie when they are very young. It is an acquired trait. Being truthful themselves they do not expect their parents, teachers, governments, emperors, and religious leaders to lie to them. The children just cannot conceive of this happening. They do figure out, at quite a young age, that the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus and "hair on your palms or blindness if you masturbate" are lies. But the big lies are such a betrayal to the young that many refuse to believe it, and pass it on to their children as truth, no matter how miserable these lies made them feel. (As one person told me "misery is just part of growing up, its normal". He just finished his second divorce. What a very sad commentary on how we treat our young.) Much of the world today is getting its laws separated, gradually, from religious beliefs. Much of the world also has freedom of religion. This means that if a person wants to go on believeing what their parents taught them, that is up to them, but, the idea that they have the right to force others, through the law, to accept their beliefs, is becoming a thing of the past. And if the humans of the world want the species to survive, this had better become the past pretty damned pronto. With freedom of religion much of the world is getting religious beliefs out of the schools and out of the national laws. There are some areas of the world that are still way behind in this regard. There are areas in eastern Europe and northern Africa where they are killing each other by the thousands trying to force others to accept " their" abnormal way of life. There are those in the United States and elsewhere, who, if they could get away with it, would put on their black robes and fire up the torture chambers to force everyone to follow their particular brand of perverted beliefs. The bottom line is, we must get religious beliefs out of the laws and schools. Heterosexual-ism is a religious belief; monogamy-ism is a religious belief; "no age of consent for those above the age of 12" is a religious belief; antihomosexual-ism is a religious belief; not teaching about sexuality and masturbation is based on religious belief; no sex without marriage is based on religious belief; laws against multiple partners in a family is based on religious belief; racism is based on religious belief; ownership of children is based on religious belief; ownership of wives is based on religious beliefs; laws on dress codes and hair styles are based on religious beliefs; laws against depicting sex acts in the arts are based on religious beliefs; antinude-ism is based on religious belief; mutilation of babies (circumcision) to lessen their enjoyment of sex, without their consent, is based on religious belief; the list goes on and on. It has been said that awareness is half the battle (well, at least part of the battle) and we are becoming more and more aware of the perversions and lies that we have been brainwashed to believe since we were children. With the advent of the World Wide Web it will be very difficult to keep this awareness from spreading all over the world, to every culture. As more and more people become aware they will not, in turn, brainwash their children in the same way. It has also been said that perverted ideas and truths really don't die, the people who hold them do. Watch for the backlash of many from this generation and the next when their children become aware of what has been happening. The number one target is now, and will be, the Internet. Rockets to shoot down the satellites, cutting all communication lines into an area: these actions are not too far fetched, for those who refuse to believe they had such a monstrous betrayal in their lives, by those they trusted. Support, at all cost, freedom of religion. Let people believe what they want. Never back a rat into a corner, he gets very violent. Support freedom of speech at all cost, let their children learn the truth. Get all laws canceled that are based on religious beliefs, let normal life be. ============================================================== A SHORT REVIEW OF THE BOOK: "PASSION OF THE CUT SLEEVE" (THE MALE HOMOSEXUAL TRADITION IN CHINA) BY BRET HIMSCH copyright 1998 by Bill Long A word about the use of "male" in the subtitle. Written history goes back to about 1500 years before the Christian era. Chinese historians considered only rulers and high government officials worth writing about. Rarely was a female mentioned in Chinese history. The name of the book comes from an incident during the Han Dynasty ( 206 B.C. to 220 C.E.). The emperor was taking a nap with his "favorite". The emperor wished to arise, but his lover was asleep and lying on his sleeve...so the emperor, rather than disturb his lover, cut off the sleeve. Thus began the fashion and the euphemism for same-sex male love. The Chinese had no word for homosexuality as such; and it was such a complete part of their life, the historians used many other phrases to describe same sex male love. The only admonition against same sex love, by some historians, was the tendency for emperors to appoint their favorites to high government positions. They may have been very nice to look at, and great lovers; but they usually did not make very good government officials. One dynasty ended when the emperor died leaving no direct heirs, and named his lover as the new emperor. (The general of the army set him aside and took the throne himself). The way to fame and fortune for those who were not noble born, but who was handsome, was through the theater and becoming the "favorite" of one of the nobles, or even the emperor himself. Love affairs among the men of the noble born was very common; but the nobles had to have households and raise children, as well as having male lovers. Very little is known about how the common people lived because historians did not write about them. The historians did add a chapter to each dynasty listing the male lovers of each emperor. The author compares this to the first 13 emperors of Rome, all of which, except one, had male lovers. The book follows the traditions of homosexuality through time, and the last few centuries are, in my opinion, very sad. As the Mongols and Manchus came into China, having been exposed to the ideas of Islam, they began passing laws against male to male love. The laws seemed to be ineffective, were at least not pursued, until the Christian Europeans arrived. The Europeans used the Chinese man-to-man love to prove the backwardness and heathenness of the Chinese people, in their opinion. The last century has seen the invasion and devastation of the Chinese and Japanese, collapse of the imperial system of government and the takeover of the European idea of communism. These calamities have cut the people of China from their traditions of man to man love. The communists have changed the system of writing to be much simpler for universal education. What this has done is to make the classical writings unreadable to most of the educated people of China. The government now claims that man-to-man love is a perversion of the western world. Taiwan newspapers are fostering the idea that homosexuals there form gangs and are very violent. Whenever there is gang related violence they are considered homosexuals, male and female. The book, in my opinion, is very well written and a very enjoyable read. There are several other cultures mentioned in passing, and it has a very good bibliography. ============================================================== REDEFINING FAMILY VALUES copyright 1998 by Bill Long Gay rights have been fighting the wrong battles in the wrong war. We have been going to their field and fighting the war on their terms. We have been fighting "Homophobia" whatever that means, but, that is only a side effect of the real situation. The real situation is "heterosexual-ism" or "monogamy-ism" (I like the second one better, If I could only figure out how to spell it and pronounce it)...that is: "worship of heterosexuality" and "worship of monogamy", respectively. Translation...we must redefine the family unit. It should be that any 2 or more people and their offspring, if any, should be considered a family unit if they wish it to be so. The "marriage contract" should reflect the members of the family's wishes. The best contract should be the equal sharing of assets and responsibilities (in some circumstances this may have to vary). Contracts should be written with the idea that someone may want to leave the marriage and the partners may want others to join the marriage. This should be their right as free individuals, as long as their contract obligations have been met. But all contracts must provide that all offspring born/adopted into the family unit is the responsibility of all members of that unit. Large family units have always been an asset. This asset should be preserved and strengthened and an end be put to monogamy by law. Unless the 2 people definitely wish it; That would be their freedom of choice. Monogamy does not work. It only seemed to work when women (wives) were the same as chattel slaves and owned by their husbands and masters. 80 percent of the adults in the U.S. in a marriage are unhappy with the situation. Countless youths and children suffer broken homes, and are raised in a poor environment as a result. Look at the shocking statistics of runaways and youth crime to see the true story as it really is. The anti-polygamy laws should be fought and taken through the supreme court as many times as necessary, to continue the fight against the government's idea to regulate people's personal lives. This would bring about what most everybody says they are for: family values and children raised in a secure, caring environment. This should also be taken internationally as part of the basic human rights package: "Freedom to form one's family units as one desires". Also we should fight for the emancipation of youths. The laws of consent based on the the Holland format should be enacted and also become a part of the international basic human rights package. "Freedom to be responsible for one's own body after puberty." Further, when the family unit has been redefined: if any youth can go before a court judge and show that they're truly unhappy in his (or her) family unit--and can show that there is another family willing take him in--and the courts' findings are that the new family unit can and will provide a stable and loving environment--that youth should be allowed to legally change family units. "Freedom to live among a family who one feels will give a loving, stable and happy life in ones youth". P.S. The Holland document should be posted here. I had a copy but lost it in a disk crash along with where the address can be found in english. If anyone has a copy, will they please post it or post the address where it can be found. Thanks ============================================================== HETROSEXUALISM IS UN-NATURAL copyright 1998 by Bill Long A short time ago I read an article by "Truth Speaker" to the effect that hetrosexualism is un-natural. Truth Speaker is the pen name of someone who lives in a country where using his real name could jeapordize his life. Yes, there still are places like that, particularly if one is going to speak or seek something like "The Truth". One of the "holy" books says "know the truth, and, the truth shall shall set you free". That is a strange statement compared to the fact that the last thing any major religion wants is for you to be free. Religious founders and purveyors must really hate women. I don't mean just simple hate, but the deep-down loathing type hate. In most societies with strong religions, women are little better than slaves...and then on top of that they add monogamous marriages. This means that the men have only one person to use for their sexual drives. This leads to pregnancy after pregnancy. Of course to many men this means that the women wear out from child-bearing and over work, die young, and he can get a younger one. The population of the religion sky rockets, the churches get fatter, the men can get several young wives during their lifetimes: everyone is happy with the arrangement. Except the sick and dead women, but they don't have much to say about it. Of course the religions then have to teach the men that homosexual relationships are wrong, otherwise the men would not go along with this un-natural situation either. Homosexuality among women is not much frowned upon because it does not really affect the situation - if - the religions can maintain control as they wish, i.e.; get the women into a monogamous marriage. I read about an extended family in New York composed entirely of women. Some of them were Lesbians, some were not; some of them were professional, others were the nannies. They had good incomes, good child care...and who the fathers of their children were, was not even discussed. Seems like they are "catching" up to where the natives of New Guinea were a thousand years ago. Now: if the males (homosexual or otherwise) can get their heads out of the sand and quit trying to ape the mostly unworkable monogamous relationships of heterosexual religions, their life would be much better. Truth Speaker points out that where homosexuality is not suppressed, or where the teachings are ignored, the population stabilizes and the people generally lead better lives. He gives just one example, but I know of many more. To get this information one must have a sharp eye, a keen ear, and do a lot of reading between the lines; because the information will be very scarce and in small bits. Anyone reporting the data knows that it must be in small bits or they will not survive as reporters very long. In the highlands of New Guinea the men of a village all live in one big house and the women live in another. When one of the women want to have a visit from her "husband" she will invite him. (Interestingly, if you look at films made recently, most of the children are part white and the men don't seem to mind. They figure it is the women who decide what kind of child to have ). This population has been stable for thousands of years, and is a very prosperous, advanced farming community. In the coastal tribes of Borneo, men live in one house, women in another. A PBS documentary recently dropped in a statement that the men formed a close homosexual relationship with one of his childhood friends, and this relationship was carried through for the rest of their lives. (One would have had to have sharp ears to catch that one...wonder how it got through the powers-that-be ?) I have been reading some books on the Mamluks, who were freed slaves, trained as warriors, and who ruled Egypt and Syria for several centuries. Historian and author of many books about that area and time, David Ayalon, comes up with one of the most preposterous theories. He points out that many of the most prominent men from that era had no children, so therefor they MUST have been EUNUCHS. That explains it all. He cannot conceive that the slaves--who were bought in the northern steppes and taken away from their families at puberty, raised in barracks with men only, trained for war, and considered their barracks mates and their owners as closer than family, sworn to lay down their lives for them without question (and did so for centuries)--were homosexual. He also overlooks the data that when one of the Mamluks cane to power as Sultan, he THEN had children. (Having a harem had been handed down as a must for Sultan) As the job of Sultan had its dangers, life expectancy was very short (assassination and war were occupational hazards). When the wives and courtiers tried to put the sons on the throne (who were almost always very young), they were removed and killed or sent away, usually by one of their former Sultan's barracks mates or one of his own Mamluks (who then himself assumed the throne). The professor goes on to say that this was UNNATURAL not to have dynastic rule. I say it was unusual until you look at the fact that the ruler's true FAMILY did continue to rule. David Ayalon, being a good Jewish scholar, cannot conceive that these great warriors, leaders and rulers could be homosexual. The unthinkable thought. In the early days of the West Indies there was a mixture of nationalities who were called the planters. At the time I speak, the British flag flew over them. The good churchies in England heard that it was an almost womanless society. Horrified at learning this, he put together a shipload of English women to send to the planters as wives. When the ship arrived, the planters would not let the women disembark; they sent the whole ship load back. ( That is the way rumor has it anyway :-} ) Did you ever notice when something is written about the "Ho Ho Ho and a bottle" group, very rarely is a woman mentioned. A few were, but I don't think they were the settling-down-with- one-man-type, and I never heard of children being mentioned. The Masai tribe in Africa. You know: the tall skinny ones that wear the orange toga type outfits. The boys cannot get married till their mothers are passed child bearing age. Then he is expected to take several wives, settle down and become a wise elder of the tribe. (I saw an interview with one of the senior wives in a household. When ask how she felt about sharing the household with other wives, she answered that she would not have married a man who could not support several others to share the work and duties of the household.) The boys join the rest of the young herdsmen and start their training as warriors before puberty. The young herdsmen live a nomadic life with the cattle. They only see the rest of the tribe a few times a year and have their own society. Now, are you naive enough to believe that they remain celibate for those 20 to 25 years? Of all the documentary I have seen about them--and there have been many--no one has ever asked the young men: "What is your sex life like?". If any of the filmers know, it has not reached the tv screen. (I did see one film where the crew visited the boy's camp. It was very apparent that they were not welcome there. Only 2 boys allowed themselves to be filmed, and their answers to any question were very curt. This is much different from the open and friendly welcome at the adult village. I feel sure that the boys know of the European and American stupid prejudices in the area of sex, and did not want to be exposed to it.) A travelogue about Norway some time ago visited a German merchants quarters. In the last century the merchants that handled the sea trade were from Germany. They brought their own workers from Germany, mostly teenagers. It was very close to a type of slavery for the boys. The barracks where the boys slept were like bunk beds, except they were boxed in on all sides and had a door on them that was locked at night to keep the kids from escaping. They were locked in TWO per bunk (to help them keep warm, they said; but they were locked in in the summer time also, ho ho ho! The California 49ers (too bad the gold strike did not happen 20 years later). In the pictures of the time how many women do you see in them? All of those thousands of poor celibate men... I feel sure that the list of societies I have listed here is just a very small sample of those where the natural life of homosexuality and multiple hetero marriages occur. There is a site link that list many of the important individuals who are/were homosexual. With my short listing here, maybe we can get the academic community to list societies where mankind were/are free to live as is natural. If you know of a professional historian or sociologist who is homosexual or not stupidly biased, ask them to put some of their findings on this site. ============================================================== WOMEN'S RIGHTS = GAY RIGHTS copyright 1998 by Bill Long Where to begin? We have behind us, in history, several thousand years of examples to draw upon. I guess I will do like --------- did in his books and start very, very early in history. I was reading an article in the Cambridge online library some time ago about a multidiscipline group forming to study what had happened about 3500 B.C., that seemed to mark a very decisive turning point in human history. One of the ideas being looked at is perhaps there was a close encounter between a comet and the earth. The comet breaking up would have rained devastation upon the earth and it's inhabitants. It seems that it was at this time that religion started changing from a mother earth and female deity viewpoint, a matriarchal society, to a monothiestic and patriarchal society. It will be interesting to see what they come up with when the research is done. But, nonetheless, beards have been very important in most of recorded human history. One of the earliest instances was a queen of Egypt who gained power and her statues show her with a beard straped to her chin. But the kings still married their sisters, a reflection of the earlier matriarchal society. As the centuries progressed women lost ground as human beings. By the time of the Romans women had little or no political power. They had became chattels, that were owned, bought and sold in most societies. Islamic jurist stated that "women were by nature deficient in reason and religion" and "they must be both protected and cordoned off and men set over them" In China, if they were destined to bear the patriarchs heirs, they were crippled by binding their feet from birth so the only way they could move from one place to another was to be carried. In India, when the patriarch died and was cremated the wifes were cremated with him. Where am I going with this, and what does it have to do with gay liberation? In the patriarchal society, to be women ( female, feminine) was a despicable thing. Any man showing traits defined as feminine was despicable. Any man having sexual relations with another man was a despicable thing, because at least one of them would have to play the despicable woman's role. I Roman times, as long as class lines was held, homosexuality was not considered a bad thing. A patrician could screw a male commoner, servant or slave. A commoner could screw a male servant or slave. A soldier could screw a captive. So, all the study I have done seems to come to the point that homosexuality its self was not the phobia, but, a man acting in any way the role of a women was the phobia. In the earliest writings of Europe one of the main themes has been a man acting in a way considered feminine (i.e.; showing compassion, weeping, showing weakness, showing affection for another man ) lost his power and ability to lead. In the last hundred years there have been women who have begin to assert that they are 1st class humans as good as any man. Some have suffered terribly for it, physically and mentally. Even in the artist center of Bohemia of Paris in the 1920s it was stated that "women were not capable of artistic talent" but, " if a woman did exhibit artistic ability she was masculine". So by the turn of this century, if a woman showed that she was intelligent, artistic, or had ability, she was being masculine. Two world wars changed things drasticly. The patriarch society, which was destroying its self with war could not survive as a civil society with out the help of women. By the end of World War II many women had moved into the position of "people" and many refused to go back to being subhuman. They have gradually redefined what a women is. They have changed the perception that the definition of being a woman is not necessarily nonintelligent, weak, weepy, and overwrought emotionally. That for a woman to be intelligent, effective, strong or politically savvy is not necessarily being "masculine". What has this to do with gay rights? Since World War II it has become more and more acceptable to be a woman. With this, it has become more and more acceptable to do the actions of being a woman. Along with this acceptability there is less phobia in the patriarchy of a man having relations with another man. I see a direct correlation between women's liberation and gay liberation. As women continue to get their human rights, the human rights for gays will continue to improve. One of the strongest actions to continue gay liberation is to assure that women's liberation continues through the world. The patriarchs scream that society is collapsing. They have always used the metaphor of a society collapsing, as one that became more "effeminate". In this case they are right: "their" society is on the wane. But the new society where women are equal in humanity, with others also having their human rights, will be a much better society for all. ============================================================== SOME WORDS ON YOUTH RIGHTS copyright 1998 by Bill Long The simple fact is that youth rights are not going to happen till the youth make it happen. Most states in the U.S. have a method of bringing issues before the voters for their decision, and to make new laws. What is going to have to happen is for youth to get savvy enough, organized enough, and determined enough to put the propositions on the ballot. First the organization must be formed to get the signatures on the ballot. Next must be the determination to do this for many elections, year after year. Youth will not be able to get the actual support of those concerned for signatures and voting, because they can neither vote nor sign. Keep in mind that every time you get a youth involved in getting the signatures, you have a future voter on your side. Every time you ask a voter to sign your petition you have brought the situation to their notice. Every time you get any press coverage you will get potential voters on your side. Old ideas don't die (i.e., youth discrimination), but the voters who hold them do. Youth organizations will have to be built state by state. The Internet is one of the greatest boons ever known for this type of political activity. It is pure politics. This is one of the best ways I have ever seen to teach youth political concepts. The will be fighting for your own self interest is one of the best selling points for a political movement ever. Money is always a problem with any new political movement. From the demographics I have seen, this should be no problem with the youth movement. Each youth donates the price of a CD or two, and you would be well on your way. Get a few rock stars to hold a few concerts with the proceeds going to your movement, and WoW. If youth do not have the smarts, willingness to learn politics, and willingness to devote the time to this, maybe they do not deserve their rights. Another factor to look at is existing politicians. Youth campaign workers are important in any campaign. Demand a plank in every platform supporting and demanding youth rights. Support only those candidates who do have and support such planks. Use the Internet, it is a powerful tool. Do lots of peaceful but noisy rallies. Then get lots of media attention. Target your most vocal distractors. You will generally find that they are basicly against everyone else's freedoms but their own. You can get a lot of allies pointing out the common cause with others whose freedoms they are against. Study and use the information and data coming out of the Europeans' lead in youth rights. There is some fantastic data coming out of Europe's granting of freedom and responsibility to youth, and how youth are handling that responsibility. It is proving that most youth are great at handling responsibility, and that their lives and those around them are much richer for it. There will always be a few clowns and goof-ups, but they are going to be that whether they are 13 or 63. Maturity is within oneself, not in one's body age. Maturity comes when one begins to think with one's own mind, not with someone else's. Good luck to you all. I hope I have helped in some small way with these words. ============================================================== WHY SOME PEOPLE ARE HOMOSEXUAL copyright 2000 by Bill Long When researching a subject, the answer is not forthcoming, and it is just not making sense, one must examine what is considered basic principals to see if in themselves they are not true. One such subject is why some people are homosexual. The gene theory does not seem to fit, neither nurture nor nature seems to fit either. Anyone who knows anything about the subject knows that 'choice' does not answer the question. There is some evidence that given enough pressure and brainwashing a homosexual may possibly change their orientation, for a while. Therefore basic assumptions must be questioned. The basic assumption is that most people are heterosexual and some are homosexual. This is the datum considered basic that must be reexamined. One of the problems with researching this subject is that there have been great pains, taken by the paternal based religions of the western world for the last 2K years, to erase and obscure the history about this subject. We now live in a new age, spearheaded, now, by the Internet. The breakup of the previous age began when printing became a reality and eventuality education became universal. As information becomes more universally available the truth of what has come before and what is happening now is becoming clear. Looking at what is becoming known about societies before they were contaminated by western religious thought is that the heterosexuality of our society is completely artificial. Societies have always been structured in a way that women and men lived separately. Men had sexual relations with men and women had sexual relations with women, except when a woman wanted a child and then she would choose a man to father the child. The reason why some people are homosexual today is that they were able to overcome the brainwashing that is omnipresent in our society, and live life as is the nature of mankind. It has always been acknowledged that "homosexual" persons are, on the whole, more intelligent and creative than those who are not. It is now apparent that they are also more resistive to society pressure to live in ways not natural to humankind. The truth WILL set you free. That is why the truth scares Hell out of most religions (pardon pun). Of course that is how many religions control their adherents. Take that which is natural and make it a sin. Take that which is unnatural and make it the will of God. As a religious leader one can't loose: everyone will be a sinner, and you are the path to the sinner's salvation, or godly and miserable. As an adherent one can't win, one will be a sinner and miserable, or godly and miserable, or go completely insane. ============================================================== ---finis