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PASTOR DAVE (SCURRILOUS KNAVE)
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posted by: ezekielk (reply)
post date: 10.09.07 (5:34 am)
Here's yet another image of Jesus representing a long-suffering minority
not included in your blog:
tinyurlDOTcom/2a8j37
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posted by: PastorDave (reply)
post date: 10.09.07 (7:56 am)
Reply to: ezekielk
I'll let your reply stay. Let me just say that I do not place gays in
the same category as blacks and Jews. One is born with skin color and
race. One may be born with a tendency to be attracted to the same sex,
but it is strictly a matter of choice what you do with that affinity.
If you want to be gay, that's your right. I'll not go around trying to
offend you. I'll certainly not point those of your persuasion to
offensive websites simply to irritate. I think, if I did so, it would
say a lot about my character, or lack thereof.
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posted by: ezekielk (reply)
post date: 10.10.07 (10:14 pm)
{{One may be born with a tendency to be attracted to the same sex, but
it is strictly a matter of choice what you do with that affinity. }}
So if science came up with a pill that would turn black people white,
you would then demand in the name of Jehovah, that they should all turn
white, or they'll go to hell. And Jews, well, religion is not genetic,
so I conclude the only reason you're excusing them, is in order to
bolster your homophobic notions.
Furthermore: being gay is far more than sexual actions...same as hetero.
It involves who we choose to be intimate with, and who we desire to grow
old with, and share our lives. Can you imagine how miserable you and
other heteros would be, if your sexuality were condemned, and you had to
live in fear of being bashed, just for holding hands? Now does that
sound very Christian to you?
The only "choice" I have is to either be brave and stand against
majority tyranny (which hides behind God's robes, using his name to
justify taunting and condemning a group of innocent people)...or to
cower in fear by obeying fundamentalist dictates to avoid any sort of
homosexual relationship.
{{ I'll certainly not point those of your persuasion to offensive
websites simply to irritate. }}
You're irritated, because you're homophobic. My intent is not to
"irritate", except that being a thorn in the side of homophobes by
speaking out, is practicing the noble tradition of Gandhi, Martin Luther
King, Susan B. Anthony, and...yes...Jesus Christ.
{{ I think, if I did so, it would say a lot about my character, or lack
thereof. }}
Be that as it may, it's obvious you need a serious attitude adjustment.
Don't tell me: you're one of THOSE preachers who uses Sodom & Gomorrah
as a premise to persecute homosexuals...ignoring COMPLETELY Lot's offer
to give up his virgin DAUGHTERS to evil men, in order to spare the
angelic visitors.
You tell me: isn't that a HETERO sin that Lot ocmmitted? Oh, I see:
breeder entertainment includes SCAPEGOATING gay people for their OWN
hetero perversions.
Besides, Jesus is most likely a homosexual too, considering how intimate
he was with his 12 disciples, all male. Churches have done a good job of
erasing that knowledge about Christ...but the truth can't be buried
forever. ONE important reason why Jesus was crucified, was for his
homosexuality. And gays have been crucified over two millenia, eve
since.
In fact, homosexuals walk Christ's path of Via Dolorosa more intimately
than any other persecuted group. It is our HONOR to be so reviled for so
long, because we know this:
The meek shall inherit the earth, and the last among us shall be first
to enter Heaven.
You are a pathetic preacher, that teaches homosexuality to be immoral. It
is no more immoral than heterosexuality. The REAL reason God condemned
Sodom & Gommorah, was for sexual LUST among MOST denizens, whether gay,
straight, or bi. And as far as Lot giving up his innocent daughters (a
blatantly HETERO sin), I'm shocked that God overlooked that, for if
Our Creator is truly just, I conclude:
Lot shoulda been shot.
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posted by: PastorDave (reply)
post date: 10.11.07 (6:50 pm)
Reply to: ezekielk
Thanks for the reply. Perhaps this is more than a hit-and-run reply. I
think we have at least two different issues here:
(1) The link. You sent it. It is intentionally vulgar. It is knowingly
offensive to almost all persons who take seriously the Christian faith.
If you have even casually considered my site, you know I am one of those
persons. And you would know that what you have sent would be offensive.
It's porn. And I am pretty sure that most who are gay would consider
such a picture, and sending such a picture unrequested over the
internet, would be inappropriate. Perhaps you are usually a decent and
kind person. I am going to assume that you are. Then, if you were to sit
back and rationally consider your actions in this matter, then maybe you
would agree.
Now, for the second issue: You have vehemently attacked and judged me,
and I think quite unfairly. You call me a "homophobe". The word is used
so often and so casually that it really loses it's impact. If you knew
me, you would know I am no more a "homophobe" than you are a
"heterophobe". Are you afraid of people of a different sexual
orientation than yourself? I hope not, because 98% plus of the world is
made up of those people.
You also, in rapid fire succession, throw all kinds of other insults my
way: Hiding behind God's robes, scapegoater, fundamentalist, pathetic
preacher. You don't know me! What you know is a four-sentence reply I
gave in response to a porn link you sent me.
I'm willing to discuss the nature of sexual orientation. Nature vs.
nurture. Jesus was gay, you say? Upon what do you base such a belief?
You preclude that I believe God judged Sodom and Gomorrah because of gay
matters? I do not. I find in the scriptures a different reason for such
judgment. Perhaps if you were to rationally discuss the issue, I would
be able to give you my take of the matter. And, by the way, Jews are a
race of people as well as a religion. One final point- it is not my
business to ascribe anyone to Hell- gays or anyone else.
Maybe, no most probably, you have been mistreated by Christians. Most
probably, you and I have some major disagreements about matters of
sexuality and faith. But I'm not your enemy. I don't hate you.
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posted by: ezekielk (reply)
post date: 10.12.07 (1:26 am)
{{ But I'm not your enemy. I don't hate you. }}
It is only by HATRED you'd declare my link as pornographic. It's CUTE,
dammit, CUTE, CUTE, CUTE. He's got more covering his lovely body than a
bathing suit, and he's not exposing himself. It's barely erotic!
What a cold, cold pastor you are. God please hear my prayers for the
release of his sheep, who'd do far better by seeking another shepherd in
their area. And if they can't, give them the energy and resources to
start their OWN church! Amen
{{ Perhaps you are usually a decent and kind person.}}
Damn right. I am decent, kind, and BRAVE all of the time, 24/7.
{{ I am going to assume that you are. }}
You'd better...God's paying CLOSE attention to what's coming down here.
{{ And, by the way, Jews are a race of people as well as a religion. }}
That's a right-wing fallacy. Mankind is not of many races...we are but
ONE race. Race means "species"...and what evolution defines as branching
into a different species, is if they can no longer produce offspring
between each kind. So Jew are not another race, nor are blacks, Asians,
and so on.
{{ Most probably, you and I have some major disagreements about matters
of sexuality and faith. }}
Yes. You're on the wrong side. You stand with Evil.
Who am I to judge? I have a very powerful guardian angel who has checked
you out and told me EVERYTHING about who and what you REALLY are. This
is a gift...a rare gift indeed, when so razor-edge accurate. The gift of
discernment.
And I am one of God's VERY VERY best psychic detectives. What do I do in
His service? I seek out evil and expunge it...on behalf of Gay
Liberation. My Angel wants me to tell you his title:
"The Angel of Vengeance on behalf of LGBT's everywhere"
but that's not his REAL name; he's just pulling your clumsy old, hairy
old, hobbling old, heter leg!
I'm done pressing your buttons. There are much BIGGER and BETTER fish
out there I can net. You're an insignificant minnow passing through the
mesh. I seek TRUE disciples of YHVW, not charlatans...and the best way
to discover a TRUE devotee is to know his attitude about homosexuals.
(If even the least bit negative, a red flag goes up in my head: another
enemy or, at best, a lukewarm associate a.k.a. "friendly fire." So I HAD
to press your buttons to bring out your soul, that I could witness. And
I'm very GOOD at that, don't you think?
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posted by: PastorDave (reply)
post date: 10.12.07 (5:23 am)
Reply to: ezekielk
Zeke, I think you've made your true intentions clear. No interest in
conversation, the give and take within the exchange of ideas. You are
interested in name calling, judging, and insulting.
I am sorry that you are so afraid of me.
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posted by: ezekielk (reply)
post date: 10.12.07 (5:52 am)
{{ 98% plus of the world is made up of those people. }}
You're kidding! You get the 2% for gays, from distorted demographics.
Whether you care to admit it or not, homosexuals are ALWAYS 10% of every
large population. Where you goons get this 2% from, is that is how many
gays are OUT OF THE CLOSET...the remainder, 8%, stay in the closet
because they are TERRORIZED by their own Amerikan neighbors, coworkers,
doctors, teacher, and so on, ad nauseaum. Such skewed data intended to
rain violence upon us homosexuals, is clearly UN-AMERICAN and a
propaganda weapon perfected by Nazis under your leader, Hitler.
The OTHER piece of DISinformation you disseminate in order to demonize
gays, is that heteros are 98% of the population. Flat out absurd: there
are NO MORE 100% HETEROS THAN THERE ARE 100% HOMOS. The rest (80%) are
BISEXUAL, more or less. Some are attracted to women more than to men,
while other bisexuals are attracted more to men than women...and some
remain strictly in the middle of that bell curve of human sexuality:
50/50 bisexuals. Big farkin' deal!
Ergo, MOST men who claim to be heterosexual are LIARS. They are mostly
bisexuals. Which implies that homosexuality is NOT a minority issue: it
is a MAJORITY issue of a type of hypocrisy that generates cruel
manifestations.
All this barbarity, this blood bath, this vulgar criminal lust for
sacrifice of virgin men!
That's REALLY gonna get you to Heaven, do ya think? Don't fool yourself,
"pastor"; God's just giving you enough rope to hang yourself properly.
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posted by: PastorDave (reply)
post date: 10.12.07 (7:36 am)
Reply to: ezekielk
I think I understand your reasoning. If anyone disagrees with you, they:
(1)hate you (2)hate all homosexuals (3)are less reasonable and
intelligent than yourself (4)that person, and everything he holds
sacred, is fair game for the vilest of insult
Being gay is not your problem.
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posted by: soulsought (reply)
post date: 10.12.07 (12:20 pm)
Dave, I know Ezekiel. His adamant stance is warranted toward phony
evangelical blasphemists who believe in capitol punishment, like my
shallow bigot fat cow cousin, who thinks that Skull & Bones member drunk
in the White House to be the second coming.
It's trash like them that drive women & men like Ezekiel to passionate
revulsion of family culture. Cuz is part of a creationist fundamentalist
cult. No way are they Christians. Her fat rump will blow up her
anticipated rapture like the Hindenburg.
My father was despicable. But I'll bet the ranch you are a kindly father
whose children will want to please you. I'll wish you well in that
endeavor, but please understand that some of us are totally incapable of
sharing that pursuit, due to damaging history beyond our control in our
formative years. On this point, Zeke is correct that our bigoted society
is unjust in blaming victims for being unable to conform to their
expectations.
Most of my dearest associations have passed over. In all reverence, they
aren't missing a damned thing here.
Would love to read your response.
Signed,
Your fellow in the teachings of Christ.
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posted by: ezekielk (reply)
post date: 10.12.07 (2:25 pm)
{{ Being gay is not your problem. }}
Correct. It's LIVING in a violently homophobic world that's the REAL
problem. We at least agree on ONE thing.
As for your preaching that homosexuality is a sin:
You KNOW that's not true. It's just that preaching against gay love has
been such a successful crowd pleaser/money maker since the Catholic
Church held an Inquisition, every scammer, 2-time hustler, charlatan,
and perverter of the Holy Word, has his finger in the queer-basher's
pie.
ALL you (sac)religious preachers know very well that anti-gay vitriol is
simply a strawman, to rile up your (poorly educated) dumbed-down flock
to shake the moolah from their pockets, as payment to PROTECT them from
the Imaginary Monster of Homosexuality. You rake in the spoils of
psychological war which BRAINWASHES your flock to become a REAL danger
to my gay brothers and sisters.
Way to go, preach! KEEP up your lies for the sake of filthy lucre and
vainglory. I know which god YOU worship, and it sure ain't the One True
Creator! Get behind me, thou breeder of ill winds and false notions!
Spreading HATRED towards the innocent among the unsuspecting masses that
frothily drool with dreams of bloodlust that YOU YOURSELF have fomented!
Unrepentant knave! Scoundrel of deceit! Your words are a BOTULISM to the
human spirit.
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posted by: ezekielk (reply)
post date: 10.12.07 (2:28 pm)
{{ Dave, I know Ezekiel. His adamant stance is warranted toward phony
evangelical blasphemists }}
Thank you, soulsought, you are impeccably accurate in the understanding.
AND I have a sense of humor about it, to boot. Pastor Dave is not quite
there yet...I'm helping him along.
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posted by: ezekielk (reply)
post date: 10.12.07 (10:40 pm)
My POINT (which you seem to IGNORE, then add insult to injury) is this:
You did not include "Gay Jesus" with your list of faces to consider. A
photo of Matthew Shepard crucified to that fence along an isolated,
dusty Montana road, would be a likely candidate.
By EXCLUDING the persecution of gays from your list, you deem
homosexuals WORTHY of hatred, bashing, torture and murder.
Of course, you'd lose a LARGE number of your flock (either existing, or
wannabe), who, like most Xians, ARE homophobic. And that's the REAL
reason you exclude gays...has nothing to do with ethics, everything to
do with the almighty dollar and peer acceptance/admiration.
Sometimes speaking TRUTH will cause you to be reviled...and THAT is one
of Christ's lessons: you walk HIS path, don't expect things to always go
easy. Taking a stand in FAVOR of gay rights takes COURAGE. To join the
majority madness by DENOUNCING homosexuals, is the way of the
coward...and the devil.
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posted by: soulsought (reply)
post date: 10.12.07 (11:14 pm)
Dear Dave,
I don't expect you to understand immediately Zeke's point of origin; I
lived it for over twenty years, but it deserves consideration which the
mainstream does not give it. His path and mine shared course for over
twenty years, then mine rapidly changed. His didn't. I empathize. I know
if fate didn't fall on me, I'd be in his situation totally. I appreciate
the sometimes ironic contradictory implications and circumstances of our
respective situations.
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posted by: soulsoughtt (reply)
post date: 10.12.07 (11:20 pm)
Dave, my man, look at our IP addresses; we're on opposite coasts.
Please, at least, give me some feedback. Bro, I've been celebate for a
decade now, big daddy. Hope that helps. :)
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posted by: ezekielk (reply)
post date: 10.13.07 (1:54 am)
Homophobic zealots like Dave (a "soft" version of this ilk, which makes
him more a snake in the grass, than a screaming baboon), belived that
homosexuals should be CELIBATE or we'll go to hell. Yet he pretends the
wickedness in his own heart (blaspheming gays) will have no
consequences. Can you say "rude awakening"?
Oops, gotta go...one of my street buddies just whistled up. Good pot,
good body, good time.
--
Heard of the Good Book?
Well, this is the BETTER Book:
The Faggot Bible
wwwDOTgay-bibleDOTorg
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posted by: PastorDave (reply)
post date: 10.13.07 (6:53 am)
Reply to: soulsought
Sorry about not giving a reply. I seek to be diligent to interact with
anyone willing to take the time and effort to make a comment on this
tiny little dot of a website. And I very much appreciate your civil and
rational tone. Sometimes I have to stay away from blogging or a few days
because of pressing matters. And I know I get a bit too serious with
this interaction. I think our friend, Ezekiel, seems typical of some who
aren't too interested in coffee-shop conversation. I can talk with just
about anybody. We can be very different. But I'm late in the game with
learning when the other guy doesn't want to talk, but simply agitate.
The best thing to do is simply walk away. I'm not good at such, as some
fellow bloggers along the way have told me, but I'll probably have to
practice it sometime soon.
Your story sounds very tough. I've had some hard things in life, but
nothing close to what you briefly describe. Who knows where I would be
had I walked in your shoes. You've probably done better than I with the
circumstances.
I'm not going to lie about it. My views about homosexuality are most
likely very different from Ezekiel and yourself. But I want to be an
authentic Christian in this matter, and this process is till developing.
I remember the story of a young man who came to his pastor seeking
understanding and help with his homosexuality. The pastor told him, "We
don't have any room for fags in our church". What a sad excuse for a
minister in that instance. Respect. Compassion. Gentleness.
Understanding. Yet, integrity. I'm working on these. And it seems that
you are working on the same things.
I have more to say. I hope you'll stay around. I think you can teach me
some things. Last night, I listened to a two-hour interactive dialog
between a group of conservative evangelicals and a group of pro-gay
Christians. It was respecful interchange, and I learned from it.
Thanks.
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posted by: soulsought (reply)
post date: 10.13.07 (8:47 am)
Thanks Dave.
Spiritual matters are so much more vital than fleshly ones. My heart
goes out to youths under 30 because their natural lust is so great,
there is hardly sufficient room or perspective for spirituality.
Life's trek puts us through so many changes. If I look at pictures of my
beloved deceased Mother, the only ones that don't make me cry are those
of her at my present age, at her strongest. The young pre WWII maiden
who deserved better than my father, or the childlike Alzheimer waif just
tears me to pieces.
What truly troubles me today in this ugly cliched society full of
doodleheads who talk like-like (I'mlike, itslike - if an interviewee for
a job drops a single "imlike", the application should instantly be torn
up), is that they allow Pat Robertson's fundamentalists to represent all
Christians. And that's just wrong.
My fatso slob cousin thinks the GOP is the same as it ever was; but back
when getting knocked up dropped her out of school, Eisenhouer warned us
about oilmen running for office.
I haven't the heart to tell her what I think, but when she spoke all
this Bush support crap, my eyes gave me away. Dumb as she is, she knew
what I was thinking. Perhaps diplomacy is a tad dishonest. Why must we
live in a world of extremes and not enough moderation. (?)
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posted by: ezekielk (reply)
post date: 10.13.07 (11:14 am)
{{ And I know I get a bit too serious with this interaction. }}
Duh.
{{ I think our friend, Ezekiel, }}
Don't call me "friend". You haven't EARNED that right, and I doubt you
will.
{{ seems typical of some who aren't too interested in coffee-shop
conversation. }}
I am a MASTER at coffee-shop conversation. YOU are blind-sided by false
Xian dogma, especially homosexuality.
{{ I can talk with just about anybody. }}
So can anyone else. Doesn't really mean much; it's a cheap and common
talent. You certainly do a poor job in talking to me!
So what do you think of Lot offering up his virgin daughters to
disgusting HETERO perverts?
Why don't you include a picture of an abused GAY person in your list of
Jesus faces?
See: no reply, no casual conversation. So much for your "gift of gab",
eh?
Gays don't have TIME for your ilk to spend years attending lectures and
workshops about "Gay is okay", in hopes that you'll come around,
eventually. We are at WAR with society NOW, and we CAN'T AFFORD to wait
for new alliances to (someday) come to our aid. This WAR was instigated
by the Hetero Majority, as manifest tnrough religious, gov't, and media
institutions.
You ARE the enemy...and by feigning SOME friendliness to gays, you
undermine our forces, and keep a wedge in our ranks, through which more
VIOLENT enemies can infiltrate and sabotage.
This IS Judgment Day...and in Jehovah's eyes, this "day" will last
several years or a little more. And it is OBVIOUS to the enlightened,
that He is first judging people by their attitude about homosexuality.
Do not think for even a nanosecond, that your condemnation of the
homosexual act will win you a ticket to Heaven...or that you are
presently taking some "classes".
Yor are NOT rolling up your sleeves, and joining in the fray to defeat
the Beast of Homophobia. You are not using ANY of your God given talents
to speak OUT against homophobia...not your words, not your deeds, not
your prayers, not your preaching.
Gays are in the same situation as Jews were, in the early part years of
Nazi Germany. And, just like them, we have very few allies, and MANY
terrible enemies ready to send us off to Amerika's concentration camps,
and use us for scientific experiments (such as new viruses for
biological warfare).
If you'd like, I'll leave instructions with the camp guard to send you a
wallet, made from my skin. What design would you like on it? May I
suggest the Amerikan flag w/swastika?
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posted by: ezekielk (reply)
post date: 10.13.07 (12:16 pm)
{{ I listened to a two-hour interactive dialog between a group of
conservative evangelicals and a group of pro-gay Christians. It was
respecful interchange, and I learned from it. }}
You CAN'T have "respectful interchange" with Nazis! Can you say "Neville
Chamberlain"? Whoever these "pro-gay" Xians are, they're SELL OUTS, and
only serve to slow down our liberation, our freedom from the hetero
skank masses!
This is like Jews in ghettos fooling themselves by thinking they can win
back their freedom by civilized DEBATES with their Nazi overlords.
AGGRESSIVE, OFFENSIVE, and CONFRONTATIONAL tactics are the ONLY tactics
that will gain us our victories, at this late date. Did Jesus decide to
debate with the temple merchants before knocking down their stalls? I
don't think so!
Until we see churches actually TAKING TO THE STREETS (and the media, and
the pulpit) on behalf of gays...as they HAVE done (and STILL do) for
OTHER oppressed folks (blacks, children, women, etc.)...we should NEVER
assume that somehow, they'll come around to common sense and reason.
We are FOOLING ourselves if we think that...much to our detriment, and
to the bemusement of our Crocodilian Religous Leaders. Who IN THE NAME
OF THEIR GOD, WHO IS SATAN, sacrifice many innocent lives to the Maws of
Moloch.
Laughing all the way to the bank, as well as stopping by a concentration
camp now and then, to spit on those sinful, starving, tortured queers.
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posted by: soulsought (reply)
post date: 10.13.07 (1:28 pm)
Dave, I was listening to your audio piece about judgement, essentially
gleaned from the seventh chapter of Matthew. I wish my Creationist
Fundamentalist cowpattie cousin would listen to it, but she feels the
internet is the devil's work.
She plays the organ in church. By no means is she as good as Jo Anne
Castle. As fat, maybe. My cousin doesn't believe any negative press
about Bush; however, she believes the smears against Michael Jackson,
Dorothy Ramsey, etc. It's as though National Enquirer was her bible.
She is more interested in being judgemental, outcasting and excluding as
many as possible from the kingdom of heaven. She's no leader, no free
thinker. As a widow, the only place she can be getting this from is her
clergyman. I'm speculating; I don't really know.
I don't fan the flames. But I do wonder what made her so bitter. She
chose to see the hayseed philandering Bill Clinton as Beezlebub, when
really he is a Southern Baptist who sought counsel from Billy Graham.
She chooses to see this drunken draft dodger Bush (went AWOL from the
National Guard) as a saint, when in fact he is a dirty killer for
profit, and an enabled multi billion dollar thief (our taxes, Federal
Reserve, Halliburton, etc.)
It may be transferred anger. As a 64 year old free babysitting
grandmother, she is under appreciated. Long hair doesn't retain lost
youth when one is fifty pounds overweight. Her Nazi sympathizing
grandparents (in-laws to me) left her less than cousins of hers on that
side because she wasn't a "thoroughbred". She is held captive by the
status quo, despite seeing the weekly congregation. Leads me to wonder
how many of them might be like her.
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posted by: rrock (reply)
post date: 10.13.07 (2:53 pm)
Looks like you are either failing to read what the man is saying, or you
haven't the ability to comprehend it. In any case, i doubt you would be
looking for support from UseNet readers if you thought you were winning
an argument of any kind. On the contrary, it appears that you know that
you are once again simply irritating a group of people for your own
personal ego trip and are looking for support to remove the guilt from
your conscience, applying some sort of "more equals better" lemming
philosophy.
Does this have anything to do with the topic of our news group? Nope. As
usual, you feel your own self-importance outweighs that of other people
in your never ending search to gain more attention to yourself and your
web-site.
In effect, your post is just more spam.
Referencing:
groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.angels/browse_frm/thread/61dbd52cf
b771c59/26872481983c4ad2
...change commas to dots.
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posted by: rrock (reply)
post date: 10.13.07 (2:55 pm)
The prior comment was directed toward ezekielk.
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posted by: Barnabus1 (reply)
post date: 10.13.07 (5:55 pm)
Do they not know we shall judge Angels?, we are certianly capable of
judging homosexual activity to be immoral!!! To say it is not a
sin....well obviously they hve not read the Bible!! Both Old and New
testament, roundly condemns it as a sin!!!
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posted by: ezekielk (reply)
post date: 10.13.07 (7:41 pm)
rrock, your pointless comment is not worth addressing, except:
Why not use the free service, tinyurlDOTcom, which will convert
cumbersomely lengthy URLs into short ones? I mean, if you really think
your points are worth considering. Frankly, I don't see how anyone
would.
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posted by: ezekielk (reply)
post date: 10.13.07 (7:49 pm)
{{ we are certianly capable of judging homosexual activity to be
immoral!!! To say it is not a sin....well obviously they hve not read
the Bible!! Both Old and New testament, roundly condemns it as a sin!!!
}}
The several passages used by bigots to condemn homosexuality are dubious
at best, certainly wide open to interpretation. They have all been
CLEARLY refuted by intelligent scholars, including those of the Xian
stripe.
It is only because you have been denied a decent education--and thus
can't really think for yourself in any useful sense, dumb-downed as you
are--that you are brainwashed by evil preachers and politicians, to
believe the GROSS misinterpretation of scripture.
Jesus and Jehovah are lovers, hence homosexual. They only have eyes for
each other. I worship Jesus AS gay, and am dead serious about this. If
you can provide the actual passages you claim denounces homosexuality,
then post them here, or shut up, okay? I can REFUTE each and every one
of them with solid references.
Are you even EDUCATED enough to find those passages...after criticizing
some for NOT reading The Babble? Just because a preacher TELLS you that
The Babble condemns same-sex love, does not necessarily mean that's the
case. You need to go and read it yourself, before taking some ignoramus
in sheep's robes' word for it.
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posted by: PastorDave (reply)
post date: 10.13.07 (7:55 pm)
Reply to: ezekielk
I am going to make a request of you for respecful and thoughtful dialog.
As I have previously stated, you do not have to agree. And you can have
passion. But on this blog, my blog, I do not want you or anyone else
using intentional insult. You go on these long, meandering diatribes.
You personally, viciously, and inappropriately attack people. I would
like for you to hang around and we can grow in understanding together. I
will try my best to treat you with respect. And, most of us understand
that does not require agreement on issues.
Here's some advice. Here at t-Blog, we have worked hard to build a
community of great variance, but with respect for one another. We talk.
We disagree. We do not insult. If you want to have interaction around
here, you must learn how to treat others.
Is it possible?
Now, if you want to go on these long and insulting rants, with whatever
vulgarity and links you may wish, then fine- just do it on your blog,
not mine.
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posted by: PastorDave (reply)
post date: 10.13.07 (7:59 pm)
Reply to: Barnabus1
I'm going to ask you to ignore this person. If you feel you need to
continue interaction with him, please do so with private correspondence
or perhaps on his blog. He's not interested in true interaction.
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posted by: PastorDave (reply)
post date: 10.13.07 (8:01 pm)
Reply to: rrock
Thank you for taking the time to help me understand better the intent of
this person.
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posted by: ezekielk (reply)
post date: 10.13.07 (8:14 pm)
Barnabus1, you are the sort of person who--if you lived 100 years
ago--would justify slavery of blacks, because that is in The Babble,
too. I'll bet you ARE racist! Are you? Do you believe blacks are
inferior? Does The Babble say that? Please enlighten me, oh Servant of
Beelzebub!
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posted by: ezekielk
post date: 10.13.07 (8:40 pm)
All God's Angels Are Gay
Imagine this unpleasant scene: A guardian angel who loves a person so
much appears before that person to make his life a living miracle. But
that person--let's call him Ishmael--takes his angel's appearance for
granted, being the spoiled brat his parents turned him into. So he
taunts the angel, lies to hurt his feelings, even beats and kicks him
whenever he feels like it, just like he does to Ol' Dawg. Ishmael keeps
shutting him up, before the angel can explain to him of Our Father's
Love and all the Wondrous Things that life can be if you only open your
heart. So the angel pleads and pleads and pleads...but all to no avail,
so that, after a number of terrible months without a single
breakthrough, the angel realizes he's accomplished his mission as best
as possible, and must now make himself invisible to this person, once
more.
Yet this terrible heartbreak suffered by this angel does not stop him
from continuing his mission--albeit invisible--by pleading and pleading
and pleading and PLEADING until that Day of Triumph comes, and come it
will. In fact, the angel never skips a beat in his devotion to a
soul...for he knows how truly blessed he is, and that it is all a
celebration even in the darkest hour. For it is in that darkest hour
only, that the angel can finally take center stage, and sing out his
heart to God. And in so doing, create a golden chord of brotherly love
that unites himself, the guardian angel, to this person.
And the angel need only be yanked down once, before he uses his wings.
Yep, you gotta be A-1 tiptop absolute BEST soldier to score that high! A
perfect score, in fact. (And does this foolish person get pulled up with
his angel, or does the chord break to leave the angel unfettered from
any more pain? That, I believe, depends on whether or not Ishmael has a
change of heart, and if it comes soon enough to make a difference.)
Now, you're probably thinking: "Yes, that does sadden me, as I know
there are all too many people in this world who are just like that nasty
Ishmael!" And as if by an afterthought, you boast: "Thank God I'm not
like that. I'd NEVER harm an angel!"
Oh, you wouldn't would you? Before you think so smug of yourself, answer
me this:
"Do you like gay people; that is: homosexuals?"
And your answer to that single question ALONE, will tell you for sure,
whether or not you are also an Ishmael. And God shall pass His judgment
upon you, accordingly. Let this parable be spoken in every tongue, in
every nation, and in every home. Blessed be. And may The Angel of
Justice pass you over.
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posted by: ezekielk (reply)
post date: 10.13.07 (8:51 pm)
{{ if you want to go on these long and insulting rants, with whatever
vulgarity and links you may wish, then fine- just do it on your blog,
not mine. }}
The vulgarity, the wickedness, the ARROGANCE of Xians spouting hellfire
and brimstone to homosexuals...and the VIOLENCE and needless MISERY and
DEATHS this causes day in and day out far EXCEED any of my condemnation
against those who believe that way.
To say that homosexuality is immoral, is a sin...and to quote passages
from The Babble that gays should be put to death, and will suffer
eternal hell...well, I ask you PASTOR Dave: How on EARTH can that be
taken as anything OTHER than the cruelest, most horrid way to treat
ANYONE?
Yet YOU regard my outraged derision of such people as something far
worse! What a maroon (to quote my gay buddy from Brooklyn, Bugs Bunny).
Yes by all means ignore me, Barnabus1. You are an insult and a stain on
Jesus' great sacrifice, by your prattling horrid ideas against
homosexuals. Remember: for every homosexual you curse, you do same to
Your Lord.
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posted by: ezekielk (reply)
post date: 10.13.07 (9:43 pm)
{{ I am sorry that you are so afraid of me. }}
Afraid, PASTOR Dave? TERROR is more like it. In your smug condemnation
of homosexuals, wherein (false) Xians preach stoning and murder of
homosexuals...considering how POWERFUL are the churches...such
villification DOES often lead to devastating gay lives 24/7, creating a
trail of misery and danger for these innocent souls to walk from cradle
to grave. And the needless DEATHS of those I love because of this. And
the virtual IMPOSSIBILITY of forming close bonds with my gay brothers
due to the TERRORISM of false Xianity!
Yes, your saccharine presentation fools me not a single iota. You are a
purveyor of Dark Evil of the blackest kind...pretending to be sooo
understanding and patient, like a crocodile's smile before he traps his
prey in the fatal grip of razor teeth.
Boot me out if you want, for speaking pure TRUTH. I think someone ELSE
you claim to worship was CRUCIFIED 2,000 years ago, for the very same
reason.
Yes I AM afraid of you, PASTOR Dave...and for damn good reason. But
being one of God's BRAVEST and most FAITHFUL soldiers, I do not allow
fear to silence me from speaking out.
Psalm 23 (4):
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will
fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort
me.
Psalm 35 (1-8):
Plead my cause, O Lord, with those who strive with me;
Fight against those who fight against me.
Take hold of shield and buckler,
And stand up for my help.
Also draw out the spear,
And stop those who pursue me.
Say to my soul,
"I am your salvation."
Let those be put to shame and brought to dishonor
Who seek after my life;
Let those be turned back and brought to confusion
Who plot my hurt.
Let them be like chaff before the wind,
And let the angel of the Lord pursue them.
For without cause they have hidden their net for me in a pit,
Which they have dug without cause for my life.
Let destruction come upon him unexpectedly,
And let his net that he has hidden catch himself;
Into that very destruction let him fall.
(So, do you consider my summoning the power of the Psalms against
your homophobic ilk, a vulgar and insulting rant, simply because it's
directed to those who ARE guilty?)
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posted by: ezekielk (reply)
post date: 10.14.07 (12:07 am)
{{ Here at t-Blog, we have worked hard to build a community of great
variance, but with respect for one another. We talk. We disagree. We do
not insult }}
Here at Pastor Dave's t-blog, being the oh-so-moral, god-fearing
KKKristians that we are, we are free to condemn homosexuals to hell, and
deny them their rights and safety and livelihood (and LIVES), as long as
we don't use any nasty EXPLETIVES in the process. All because it is our
RELIGIOUS belief to demonize gay people.
But if any GAY person uses expletives to denounce our solid stand for
HETERO righteosness...hey, we're all over him like white on rye. Because
we have the backing of The Beast and his main servant, Prezzydent BUSH.
But you'll never find us preaching racism, misogyny, anti-semitism...at
least, you'll never CATCH us doing that in public. Our OWN private
covens--er, circles--well, THAT's a different matter.
As long as anti-gay vitriole remains the ONLY legally sanctioned form of
excessive prejudice, we will exercise our gov't/beelzebub protected
RIGHT to harangue, discriminate against, vilify and EXCORIATE
homosexuals to the GREATEST extent possible...including the promotion to
lock these godless perverts behind bars and EXTERMINATE them, that our
children sleep safely at night.
Government backs us up...especially since the right-wing Y2K coup out of
Florida, where Satan's very own representive now sits in the Oval
Office. And the BABBLE backs us up, too.
Oh, the BABBLE also backs us up regarding the enslavement of black
people. But until the gubbermint comes to its senses, we'll need to walk
softly and wait that one out. But ONCE we got the damn QUEERS all
rounded up, the rest will be a cinch. Like Judas and his 30 pieces of
silver. A peace of cake.
Devil's FOOD, that is.
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posted by: ezekielk (reply)
post date: 10.14.07 (1:18 am)
{{ Thank you for taking the time to help me understand better the intent
of this person. }}
That's just plain silly. Rrock doesn't know me from SQUAT. He only knows
OF me from my occasional posts to newsgroup "alt.religion.angels". He's
another homophobe who RESENTS my interjecting gay perspectives into the
mystical dimension of angels.
So of course he'll slander me, in order to sabotage my good works...like
any anti-gay flamer.
If you REALLY want to understand me, just visit my website. I'm like an
open book, that anyone can read. I have NOTHING to hide. There's even a
section on my site, that has links to ALL my discussions on Usenet from
day 1 (the first day I got on to the Internet, back in 1997).
I also have, in my writing section--besides a variety of letters, tales,
essays and poems--a subsection called "Parables for the 21st
Century"...which idea I first came up with in 1988. Soulsought was
there, when I wrote my first parable, "The Little Angel Who Wouldn't
Fly".
In fact, he lived two flights directly above me! He has since moved to
another state, some years back.
My web log is ALSO a great place to learn about my ideas: my philosophy,
spiritual viewpoints, political meanderings, and visions. Quite
frequently, I discuss the nature of angels, including that MANY (if not
all) are homosexual. They give me my stories, my philosophy, including
an extraordinary essay called "NeoPositivity: a gay religion, and heart
of the Final Testament".
If you think the DEVIL has possessed me to write such works, you are
terribly mistaken. I am probably the BEST servant of God right now, on
this sorry old planet. And my time has about come, for recognition and
empowerment of the messages and insight that are flowing through my
soul. Soon, very soon, all the world shall know of me, and thank God for
my gifts.
I am a Psychic Surgeon so to speak, who deftly removes the mote from a
person's eye, the stain from his soul...in one swift, invisible gesture.
Shock Therapy is my main strategy, and I'm VERY good at it. The trick to
my success is not let it BOTHER me that my patients become UPSET as the
first reaction to my most innovative healing method.
I do not heal ailments of the flesh, which are insignificant. I heal the
soul, the heart, the mind. A final word of advice:
Be careful about continuing to accept/allow ANY sort of prejudice
against homosexuals, no matter how slight it may seem. Homophobia is a
hatred that is either THERE or not...no shades of gray in between (very
binary). It is the nature of even the SLIGHTEST sort of anti-gay hatred,
to rapidly balloon into EXTREME violence.
And it all started--this psychic virus of homophobia--when the idea came
to Cain, to kill his brother. And there you have the first crime of
humanity: brother-on-brother violence. A.K.A. "homophobia'.
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posted by: soulsought (reply)
post date: 10.14.07 (12:25 pm)
Old testament passages must be taken in context, as the enlightened word
of the New testament supercedes them with the enlightenment of Jesus'
sermon on the mount. That doesn't necessarily mean that the scribblings
of Paul were all that enlightened.
Backwater churches tend to be just ignorant, as they foster libelous
claims against homos.
Enlightened Christians realize that the combination of "Thou shalt not
kill" and "Vengeance is mine" means capital punishment is wrong. But
dimwits in bigot churches don't realize this.
My creationist cousin can't conceive of the notion that God the father
used evolution in creating life. Yet she goes to a doctor's treatment
based upon science. While she's an idiot, I don't argue with her. What
good would it do? I still love her for the good things she practiced and
believed before she went nut-so and joined a Fundamentalist cult. Now I
know how conservative parents feel when their offspring join cults.
There is absolutely nothing Christian about that ugly little monkey in
the White House.
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posted by: soulsought (reply)
post date: 10.14.07 (12:37 pm)
My feelings of outrage have an anger byproduct that I must temper, in
order to make my rational points. Many people are oblivious to other
perspectives, unaware of the social injustice of their own. I try to
realize that the deceived are victims too.
For instance, I believe the Good Lord wants me to forgive my dead father
for his deliberate cruelty, because emotionally and psychologically, he
was not well. In my own Court of Conscience, I have to give him appeals.
But the small percentage of temperament I inherited from that so-and-so
makes it difficult.
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posted by: soulsought (reply)
post date: 10.14.07 (11:21 pm)
Dave, those of us on dialup have a difficult time trying to listen to
your audio offerings. While it's orienting to listen to a sentence or
two of your voice, more of it would reach us dialups if there were a
link list to each sermon/lecture in readable manuscript.
Many don't have time to wait for the long download.
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posted by: ezekielk (reply)
post date: 10.16.07 (11:21 am)
{{ more of it would reach us dialups if there were a link list to each
sermon/lecture in readable manuscript. }}
Don't you get it? "If thou lackest broadband thou shalt not access the
Kingdom of Heaven...nor Pastor Dave's sermons."
The best us 56kbps-ers could ever hope for is Limbo. There, we NEVER see
the face of YHVH, nor hear the divine words of Pastor Dave.
Nonetheless, I'd STILL think I died and went to Heaven!
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posted by: PastorDave (reply)
post date: 10.16.07 (7:07 pm)
Reply to: ezekielk
I'm going to risk another reply. After carefully reading the previous
comment, what comes across to me is that you are far too sure of
yourself. You have far too high an estimation of yourself. You are no
angel. You're simply a human being- fragile, sinful, needful. And as far
as your crusade against all things homophobic, crusaders do not change
hearts. They kill.
I will check out your website.
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posted by: Spartakus (reply)
post date: 10.16.07 (9:26 pm)
Pastor Dave - long time, no talk to. We used to tangle in talk.abortion.
But relax, I'm not here to flame you or pollute your blog with bad mojo.
This is *your* blog, after all, and I am a guest here.
I used to belong to a gay-friendly church. And over and over again, I
saw the same phenomenon - young men and women who grew up in Christian
families who loved Jesus, believed God's promises, but happened to be
gay.
(Just an aside: people do not choose to be gay, anymore than people
choose to be straight.)
So they are ostracized by their parents and by their church, and it
breaks their hearts. Most of the time, the parents come around and there
is reconciliation. And isn't that a good thing?
That's what this church was about. And over and over again, I'd see gays
and lesbians come to church, hear that Jesus loved them, hear that God's
promises were there for them, and they'd weep for joy, or at least get
all misty-eyed.
The pastor there used to say on a regular basis, "Everyone, no matter
what they have said or done, is an object of God's care and concern".
Where am I going with this? I would like to suggest that a big reason
why gays, lesbians, transgendered and bisexual people are so passionate
about engaging with religious folk because those who seek God (however
they understand God) on some deep existential level will not be denied
*their* claim to God's promises or Jesus' love.
ezekielk seems to be very full of himself. So what? Perhaps you could
profit by swallowing your pride and listening. Isn't that what pastors
do?
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posted by: ezekielk (reply)
post date: 10.17.07 (12:08 am)
{{ ezekielk seems to be very full of himself }}
I'm filled with The Spirit: it is He Who guides my brazen glory. I am
burning with Truth. Victory is PROMISED me, by none other than YHVH's
Dearest Angels and Lovers. NO ONE will ever defeat, discourage, or block
my Great Destiny in any way whatsoever.
[[ Perhaps you could profit by swallowing your pride and listening.
Isn't that what pastors do? }}
Thank you. Spartakus.
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posted by: ezekielk (reply)
post date: 10.17.07 (12:33 am)
Reply to: PastorDave
{{ I'm going to risk another reply. }}
How courageous of you, after deleting the THREE most important comments
I've ever made here.
{{ you are far too sure of yourself. }}
I am SURE of myself for ONE reason only, and no other:
I am sure of GOD...who has promised me fruits of my labor in this life,
not after I pass. Like Job I have suffered decades of indignity,
impoverishment, isolation and horrors you wouldn't wish on your worst
enemy. And, like Job, I ALWAYS trusted my difficult life was for a
higher PURPOSE, including to strengthen my soul, sharpen my wit, and
hone the intellect. Sometimes I falter, and boy does it hurt to go back
into that ambience of doubt and angst...VERY painful.
{{ You have far too high an estimation of yourself. }}
Maybe we should take this out back, buddy.
{{ You are no angel. }}
I'm not, am I? How do YOU know...as far as you're concerned, I COULD be
a very advanced experiment of artificial intelligence. Disseminated
perhaps by our military or someone else's (o gawd I hope it's not the
muslims), or by some secret organization (Illuminati? Gay Mafia?), or by
international hacker rogues.
Or maybe I really AM an angel...after all, how many HUMANS do you know
that can write so ELOQUENTLY on just the drop of a halo? If human, at
least I am blessed with angelic talents. Singing's not one of them, nor
playing a musical instrument...though I wish.
You know me only through digitized words across an invisible network.
Maybe I'm Zeke's Mighty Mouse Virus! Wanna learn about that...well, it's
on my web site, the newest essay in fact:
PEI: October Vision 2007
wwwDOTgay-bibleDOTorg/write/2_PEI.htm
{{ crusaders do not change hearts. They kill. }}
Jeez, for a guy who claims to be straight, you sure can be a drama queen
sometimes! Besides, you're going by definition #2. See?
Noun: crusader
1. A disputant who advocates reform
2. A warrior who engages in a holy war
(From my "WordWeb" electronic dictionary.)
I am a crusader by the first definition...and very ZEALOUS about it! I
like to say I'm what happens when a gay activist gets bitten by the
Millennium Bug! My angels TELL me to stand up and be PROUD, and toot my
own horn now and then. They INSPIRE me to create a NEW character of
myself, in order to perform my angel-assigned mission.
They tell me to SPEAK OUT about my gay angels...and give me these
WONDERFUL tales, poems, essays and letters to write. And stories to
tell! EVERYTHING I've posted here thus far (and as it shall ever be),
was under the DIRECT guidance and blessings of my wonderful angels.
How are you SO sure I'm not an angel, simply based on electrons shooting
around cyberspace? Do you have some sort of special gift of discernment,
that you KNOW this for sure?
Or what...you don't REALLY believe in angels, even though they play a
CENTRAL role in bringing about Jesus's birth and message. If I WERE an
angel (you think), I would most certainly GO OUT OF MY WAY to prove
this.
How conceited!
You have no idea how LUCKY you are to have my attention a while longer.
Quick to judge, slow to learn
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posted by: PastorDave (reply)
post date: 10.17.07 (6:39 am)
Reply to: ezekielk
But...in your comments, you move far beyond what has been said. I do not
spout hellfire and brimstone toward homosexuals. I do not say that gays
should be put to death, nor suffer eternal Hell. You are obviously very
angry. I do not have the inclination to banter with you word-for-word,
phrase for phrase. I could. But such is not the kind of beneficial
interaction that I seek with this blog.
Here's the essence of what is going on here: I do not agree with you. I
have a view about an issue, an admittedly very important issue, that
differs from you. You have stated that you refuse to compromise. You
refuse to respect any differing, any shade of variation. You insult. I
make a couple of innocuous comments, and you have raged for days and
days going far, far beyond any semblance of the original matter. When
you hammer someone into silence by the shere volume of and ferocity of
words, I guess you think that somehow that equates to victory in th
debate arena. Instead, it is evidence that others just want to get away
from you. Perhaps you could have been convincing, and even gained some
understanding, if you had shown respect.
Now what I do not want, in response, is a half-dozen longwinded and
vicious rants. Just interact. Talk. I do not want you to take a bazooka
and blow me away. Just sit across the table, and talk. If you can do
that, fine, then we can co-exist in this little room.
One more thing: It seems you have atempted to send out a clarion call to
others of your persuasion to come here, onto my meager little home in
the blogosphere, to attack. Thankfully the folks who have responded seem
to be of a reasonable persuasion. What's the word for it..."flaming"?
I'll talk. But I'll not get into that kind of situation.
Now I'll read your other comments, and discern whether you are wanting
to interact.
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posted by: PastorDave (reply)
post date: 10.17.07 (6:56 am)
Reply to: Spartakus
Seems I remember you. Welcome.
Listening is a vital part of communication. Essential. But,
communication is not a long-winded speech. This guy talks, but he does
not listen.
I appreciate your understanding of a gay-friendly church. That church
has every right to exist, without persecution. If people find meaning,
purpose, and strength is such a context, then good for them. But you
cannot force me to accept it as legitimate to my Christian persuasion. I
deeply believe there is a better way.
But we can co-exist. And we can talk. Respectfully. And listen. Who
knows- maybe you will persuade me in the process. Maybe not. And if you
are not interested in talking, and dialog, and listening- then surely
you have enough respect to let it be known what you think and then move
on? And such is what I expect from this guy.
Anyhow, thanks for coming along. I've written a good bit about abortion.
I don't remember getting too irritated with you.
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posted by: ezekielk (reply)
post date: 10.17.07 (11:29 am)
{{ It seems you have atempted to send out a clarion call to others of
your persuasion to come here, onto my meager little home in the
blogosphere, to attack. }}
Nope. I invited both Christians and non-Christians to join in...as I
sent the invite to FOUR major Xian newsgroups, as well as activist,
pagan and gay group...and plenty of pagans and activists are also
anti-gay.
So: wrong again. Your dark notions about gay people muddy your
perception. Mote, meet Pastor David's eye.
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posted by: ezekielk (reply)
post date: 10.17.07 (12:20 pm)
{{ I do not say that gays should be put to death, nor suffer eternal
Hell. }}
Nor do you condemn those who preach that.
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posted by: ezekielk (reply)
post date: 10.17.07 (2:48 pm)
{{ But you cannot force me to accept it as legitimate to my Christian
persuasion. }}
You ARE a devious one: you attempt to confuse "my" with "Christian".
YOUR Xian persuasion can be as individual as to exclude ANYONE else in
YOUR congregation. So in your case, the doubtless EMPHASIS is on the
word "my"...and NOT "Christian".
In its pure--and therefore CORRECT form--there is no "my or "yours,"
"me" or "you". There is only THOU WHO ART GOD and my beloved!
Ergo, Christian persuasion--without the "my" or any other personal
pronoun--would indeed CONDEMN to the very bowels of hell, dragging
your feet on the Gay Agenda. For YOUR "persuasion" may not be SOMEONE
ELSE'S persuasion, or the persuasion of ANOTHER church that shares your
faith (but hopefully, not "fate").
I have said all that ever need be said, in this thread by now, that is
PERTINENT to the matter of homosexuality and the church. As one who is
homophobic yourself--yet CLEVERLY portrays a mild-mannered liberal "Mr.
Rogers" kind of Xian preacher--YOUR strategy now is to waste my time,
that I will be stalled or at least slowed down from all my OTHER good
works! You're a quarter-penny a dozen!
The final strategy of a desperate criminal who knows he is about to be
cornered, is to play the "friendship" card...still wielding a knife
behind him (get it, "wielding," not "hiding", so hetero-ARROGANT as to
only PARTIALLY hide that knife while offering a hand in peace), ready to
strike at the next opportunity! And this is PRECISELY our current state
of the union when it comes to progressive Xian churches--AND
fundamentalist groups feigning attempts at COMPASSION--as it regards the
whole Gay Marriage Thing; and thus the ENTIRE platform on which ALL gay
rights stand: past, present and future.
It is glaringly OBVIOUS to the intelligent of this world--including
those certain recently-allied (to Gay Marriage) Conservatives,
Republicans, Right Wingers and Fundamentalists (still a mere drop in the
proverbial bucket)--that you homophobic churches have NOTHING but EVIL
in your heart, when it comes to ANY aspect of homosexuals. At this point
in contemporary Gay History, there is NO EXCUSE for any church to remain
the LEAST bit homophobic. This is CLEARLY a truth only quite recently
displayed in all its glory for the very first time, under the full and
glorious Light of Day. As CLEAR as the bells that pealed the TRUTH Of
Brotherhood for Amerika's black slaves...thus heralding The Civil War.
There is NOTHING left to do with your kind: no more educating,
"respectful" discussing and debating, church classes, 2 Mommies/Daddies
type childrens' books, "workplace sensitivity" sessions, community
bonding, neighborly gossip, or any OTHER sort of reasoning under the
sun. It has ALL been done, ad nauseum/infinitum...while you scummy
knaves of churches, after all these so MANY years, still REFUSE to budge
an INCH from preaching VIOLENCE against homosexuals.
Your latest strategy combines SILENCE on the issue (a fence-straddling
maneuver, indisputably hypocritical, but which really serves to EMPOWER
the Enemy-The Beast of Homophobia--the same way Sweden's neutrality
empowered Nazi Germany)...and playing dumb and acting all sugary sweet,
but NONETHELESS unequivocally AGAINST homosexual equality in every
possible manner, including our right to EXIST (when questioned in this
way; they NEVER volunteer their viewpoints). So much like a cult, I
could shoot myself! (Or maybe it's that long needle you just stuck in
the head of my voodoo doll effigy.)
NOTHING left to do at all except...
DECRY as best we can, and as often as we can, the absolute HIDEOUSNESS
of MOST churches who've TWISTED and MALIGNED Jesus' story of love and
sacrifice, into one of HETERO UPSMANSHIP: engineering the Xian religion
into one that worships heterosexuals as "Supreme Chosen Ones" (the
"Master Race") upon whose nobility depends a seasonal hunt of no less
than 13 homosexual scalps, or 26 bisexual ones. This NEW AGE Xianity, is
a socially-engineered melding of the very WORST and most HYPER-OBSESSED
groups of fundamentalists, patriots, and football/AFW fanatics. It is
JESUS ON STEROIDS a la Sylvester Stallone's "Rocky." (Like a bunch of
pre-adolescent punks who act like the cocks o' the walk before they get
totally creamed for the first time...certainly NOT suitable leaders of
the spirit, or of any other important office.)
"Jesus is back, and he means business. He's after you fags, he's all
over your asses...and he won't be satisfied until he's mowed down every
single one you on the planet...which, depending on whether you believe
in the 2% Theory or the 10% Theory, out of an approximate total HUMAN
population of 6.6 billion, gives you either 132,000,000 (the population
of the Deep South + Cuba, before the Civil War), or 660,000,000 (the
population of 2 Amerikas + 1 Nicaragua). So take THAT you little
queers!"
I am a Christian who believes that Jesus is homosexual, and whose lover
is of course, God. And it is also my belief that Jesus had the
homosexuality/family issue in mind, when He said
(Matthew 10:35-36):
"For I have come to set a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-
law against her mother-in-law. And a man's foes
will be those of his own household."
President Clinton's signing of the so-called "Defense Of Marriage Act"
is clearly this prophecy on the way to fulfilling itself. Best prepare
for the revolution about to come, and beware of family and most of your
hetero buddies--for they may kill you with "friendly fire."
Those who take a brave stand for defending sexual minorities are the
winners. They shall inherit the earth...and the majority of them are
neither Christian, Jewish, nor Muslim. They will be largely "pagan" (in
the broad meaning of this word), though some will be from the
Judeo/Christian/Muslim realm. Many will be refugees from these realms! A
certain percentage from this realm will pull through, because they will
also defend sexual minorities...but they are definitely a minority
within this realm...say, at most, 20%.
You can even quote Jesus of the New Testament, to bolster my claim. In
the Gospel of Matthew, he states that upon his return, many will say:
"Lord, have we not done good deeds in your name?" To which he'll reply
in scorn: "Get away from me, I don't want to know you." This is Jesus's
own prediction: that by the so-called end times, the majority of
Christians will be worthless hypocrites, not even worth mulching back
into the soil, for they are that poisonous. Who else could he have
meant, than those Vociferously Vulgar Volcanoes of Verbal Vomit:
fundamentalist churches and their ilk: evangelist, pentecostal, Baptist,
neo-conservative, bible belt, and red neck or right wing (which is YOUR
favorite part of the turkey?).
May God have mercy on your soul. There is STILL time...though I'm afraid
it's getting pretty damn close...surely NOT enough time to read
EVERYTHING on my web site. Good luck, and may you be saved, and we meet
as friends on the other side. But I really couldn't care less...I
reserve my grieving over souls WORTH A DAMN. My gay brothers and
sisters.
Considering the issue of timeliness (read "URGENT"), best limit yourself
to this one section of my site: my web log
ezekielkDOTtblogDOTcom
as it updates in real time, keeping my WORTHY brothers and sisters
(which excludes YOU of course) a few steps ahead of Satan's next moves.
I feel like a pawn on the Dart Board Of Life!
How will I know if you "made it" in God's eye? You'll be shouting from
the pulpit BLASPHEMY to all homophobes and anti-gay false scripture. And
TOTALLY devoted to yours truly. Better sooner than later (to be
understating the matter by a comet's shot): the ball is in your court.
Just don't get your hands burned!
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posted by: PastorDave (reply)
post date: 10.17.07 (5:26 pm)
Reply to: ezekielk
Thank you, very much, for promising to end your thread of comments on
this blog. You are twisted and conflicted in so many ways, including
your ability/willingness to interact. It does not seem, at this point,
that you and I are able to communicate.
You are right. We will both meet God one day.
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posted by: ezekielk (reply)
post date: 10.17.07 (10:05 pm)
Glad I rocked your world.
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--finis